Let's start a Textgen league once we can start signing up for leagues. Be like a little home league and will stimulate the discussion here some. Any suggestions for the set up?

My only suggestion is make it a mono league, rather than mixed. Also, roto style, with standard scoring (5x5) and 12 teams.

I think that is the most common league setup, and would make our discussions here more relevant.

I played a 16 team mixed H2H league last year, and it just was too easy to find valuable players on the wire all the time. It rewards players who have more time and access to the site, over the guys who can only check in after work and such.

My NL only, 5x5, 11 team, with weekly transactions was much more fun and challenging to play.

I agree with BookieBob. NL only is nice because the 2 extra NL teams give you a bigger player pool, but I'd be up for either NL only or AL only (or even mixed if that's what most people want). How about a 5X5 NL only with 12-14 teams on yahoo?

I can agree with the mono league. We can look at the number of teams based on the response we get from this here membership. Right now, I think we only have 11 members. I also agree the 5x5 set up would be optimal. One of the most common set ups. At the same time, I'm not looking to cater to the lowest common denominator. We'll see as the next couple weeks progress.

I'd love to do a mono league since I've never done one before. Sign me up once registration is up, please!

Agree with Postman. I've always been a mixed league player so I'd be more than happy to try out something new and test my true knowledge.

Here's a radical idea -- 3 leagues. I'm even willing to set them up and run them (though I'll need some assistance to save us all some cash, more on that at the end).

All leagues roto scoring and standard 5 x 5. Most leagues are so that is where we should start.

12 - 15 team mixed league
12 team AL only
13 team NL only

These league sizes are standard for the monoleagues, and for the mixed 12 teams is most popular but there are a ton of 15 team leagues due to NFBC.

We could run them all on CBS so we'd have history, which would be cool as these boards grow. CBS is offering a referral for new leagues this year. $50 to the referrer and $50 to the new league owner, both as rebates after the year. You just can't refer yourself. So for this year the leagues would only cost $30 each for hosting.

I'd be willing to participate in all three, and we could call them the Founders Series Leagues, but we could also allow new blood by saying whomever finishes last has to sit out at least one year and we'd get new blood that way. Though if we make them keeper leagues that turnover idea might not work. I guess if they were contracts with salary escalation it could still be done.

We need not break the bank on the fees, but free leagues are usually a bad idea. Can we get enough interest to fill all of these?

~ Fred

I'm up for a monoleague, and NL sounds dandy to me. I love monos because the utility guys and middle relievers become that much more important, and you have to stay on top of the waiver wire like Britney Spears on an 8-ball. Definitely up for it, especially with you guys. Great idea!

I think Rager's got some good ideas there. I've been in a Sportsline friends league for years, and must say they do a solid job. It's nice to have the history to track, as well. Sign me up!

Let's see if we can keep a running total then -- feel free to quote this post and add your name as applicable. And if I put you in the wrong league or in too many feel free to correct my entry.

Mixed

1. RagerXS
2. BCBarney
3. Mohair Sam

NL Only

1. RagerXS
2. bookiebob
3. Daver
4. Postman
5. havok
6. Mohair Sam

AL Only

1. RagerXS
2. Postman
3. havok
4. Mohair Sam

No time like the present to learn something new. I would appreciate being added to the AL-only lineup.
Thanks, TJ

If you guys go with three leagues. I will be game. Let me know. Also, for brevity sake. Email me at howard.tyler@gmail.com if I don't respond here. I am trying to get back into the swing of things (writing/thinking about fantasy sports) so bear with me.

Updated!

I'll play in one league wherever you need a team to round things out. Mono, mixed, al, nl, doesn't matter to me.
TBone

RagerXS,

Thanks for taking the lead on this - I think it is a great idea!

But are you sure about the CBS league price? They want $129 from my money league to renew, and thats with a $20 discount!

I've also played several years at Yahoo and last year at ESPN. They were always free, but free meant some limitations.

My Yahoo league is a redraft league, but the same core of 8-9 players always sign up each year (seven seasons worth), so at least the owners kind of know each other.

ESPN really screwed things up last year, but they may have learned from their mistakes.

I use these free leagues to help me strategize my money league, so they are like research labs for me!

I would love to participate in a Mixed league as well as try an AL-only. Unfortunately money is kinda tight for me this year so I would likely only be able to participate if you go with a free site (I prefer Yahoo).

Let me know.

In fact, if there is enough people around, we could consider having leagues at different sites.

Thanks

I'd do the mixed and the AL Only. My home league is an AL Only so I'd be able to use this league like a testing lab.

On the money side...Not sure if I'd be able to do it on a year to year basis. First year would be cheap, $30/12=couple of bucks. $130/12=around 10 each. Maybe I could do it year to year at least helping to pay the hosting fees. I know yahoo has something new where you can set up history for your leagues. I haven't looked at too much because I'm not the commish for any leagues.

Any other thoughts on the cost of the leagues? I'm assuming most people would want to play for something more than just paying for the hosting fees.

I'm officially on the "free" bandwagon.

I think Yahoo offers the best free game options, and they sorta keep the league history for you - Final Standings, Final Rosters, Draft Results.

Also, they will allow an "auto draft" option. I know, that takes the best part of the league away, but many players just can't make the time for an online draft.

I post here only on my work time (sorry boss) and there's no time in my real life to attend a free league draft.

Yahoo does allow live drafts with some owners auto drafting, so that would allow players to attend the live draft, and allow players like me to auto draft and still play the game.

I'm just glad to hear that I'm not the only one taking corporate America to town while I'm on these boards. I don't know what I'd do all day if I didn't have fantasy sports/boards/articles in my life.

i'm officially a yahoo man. i've been commish for many leagues and the free game is easy to organize. most of the drafts i'm in have a mix of live and autodraft participants. with textgen leagues i propose we just set up several leagues on several different sites. that way if you want to play for free you can play in the yahoo league or for prizes in another league.

BookieBob: ESPN was a classic screw-up last year. Hope they learned, although the FREE MLB.com that they gave us for "suffering" through the pain was sweet!
I have got to think that things will be better there but I will go wherever a league is formed.
We have used CBS for baseball(3+yrs) and hockey(7+yrs) pretty much trouble-free. Yahoo has been good for me for baseball and hockey.
Oh yeah, I'm on your "free" bandwagon as well.
TJ

Add me to the "free" bandwagon as well. I think the guys (and girls if we have any) on this site will be committed whether the league is free or pay.

So we're looking at three free leagues to start with. Both mono leagues and a mixed. Sounds great to me. Anyone volunteer to commish any of the leagues?

I'll give a try on either mono league since I have experience from last year using Yahoo. It doesn't matter which one to me but whoever picks one, I'll take the other ok? It's alittle late but I concur with the free leagues since I have no penny to spare for any paying leagues.

i'll commish a mixed yahoo. i've played yahoo since 01 and prefer them to cbs and espn. the espn fiasco scared me off last year, i felt sorry for matt. i play a mixed h2h and a money roto each baseball season. i can set us up with a 12 team h2h and schedule the draft during the work day if you like. i can block off a draft time for myself, just let me know what would be best for the rest of you according to time zones.

Thanks dna, I'll commish the other mono league. But let's be clear that these are all roto 5x5 leagues -- no head to head stuff.

I'm working on a draft constitution that I'll post soon so all the leagues' owners can make suggestions.

~ Fred

I'll choose the NL only league, Postman can have the AL. Though I'll participate in all three.

Updated...

Mixed

1. RagerXS
2. BCBarney
3. Mohair Sam
4. Radioheadok311
5. chlenko
6. BCBarney
7. dna **
8. havok

NL Only

1. RagerXS **
2. bookiebob
3. Daver
4. Postman
5. havok
6. Mohair Sam
7. Radioheadok311

AL Only

1. RagerXS
2. Postman **
3. havok
4. Mohair Sam
5. TJ4
6. Radioheadok311
7. BCBarney

Wherever needed

• TBone

** denotes commissioner

Let's do all the leagues on Yahoo this year, and all free.

~ Fred

You can chuck me in the mixed league too. Might as well.

We need to decide whether these will be keeper or redraft leagues. Auction or snake draft? I prefer auctions.

~ Fred

I have never done an auction before but my guess is that you need everyone present at the draft to conduct an auction. That might be difficult. As such, I think snake is the way to go.

Also, it might be better to start off as a redraft. Maybe if we find consistency in who joins the league after a couple season we could consider starting a keeper.

That's just my opinion.

I agree with chlenko. I think the logistics behind an auction wouldn't really work in this format. I also agree with starting off a re-draft until we have a more consistent and growing membership base so that we know people will stick around; or worst case we'll have new owners to fill-in. We already have basically every member of these boards in all three leagues - that's quite a bit of dependency if we were to use the keeper format. Just my opinion though - I'm down for whatever.

Snake, redraft... Works for me at least for this year.

I'll join all three or whever needed, just let me know. FWIW, I've been a hard-core, free Yahoo! man since '03.

Yahoo is a great site for free leagues. Their default settings don't need to be changed much at all.

I think we should choose a redraft, snake, and also make it weekly transactions. You can add/drop at any time, but the new roster doesn't take effect until the next scoring period starts.

We've always started each week on Tuesday - that way, all the weekend news is in, and you have all day Monday to set your lineup for the next week.

Daily transaction leagues give a big advantage to guys (like me) who sit at the computer all day. That just doesn't seem fair to they player who can't be online constantly.

Auctions are the best, but only if everyone is available or in person on draft day. I think that would be difficult for us to pull off here.

Updated...

Mixed

1. RagerXS
2. BCBarney
3. Mohair Sam
4. Radioheadok311
5. chlenko
6. BCBarney
7. dna **
8. havok
9. jumphook14

NL Only

1. RagerXS **
2. bookiebob
3. Daver
4. Postman
5. havok
6. Mohair Sam
7. Radioheadok311
8. jumphook14

AL Only

1. RagerXS
2. Postman **
3. havok
4. Mohair Sam
5. TJ4
6. Radioheadok311
7. BCBarney
8. jumphook14

Wherever needed

• TBone

** denotes commissioner

Anyone know when the site are going to start opening up their baseball games for signing up?

and so it begins...

mixed leagues
standard roto
12 team yahoo

ID# is 17931
League Name: the big inning
Password: redux

TgFS AL League (Yahoo)
League #: 18948
Password: postman

Some questions for you guys jumping on this league:
1) If a player is traded/claimed through waivers to or away from the AL league, how do you want to manged the affected player(s)? If coming to AL do you want to go by waiver priority or by some other means? If a player is considered significant, should we allow the team to get first dibs on the players coming to the AL?

2) I am assuming this is a roto league right? Or is it a H2H league? Roto is probably best since we're not sure how many will join the league and if we have an odd amount, we can't do a H2H league.

3) I want to be alittle flexible on the date and time so please let me know if things really won't work around a certain time. The sooner I establish a date and time set in stone, the better the chances of people working their schedule around that date and time. Once it's set, it's set. Even if I don't make the draft, it will go on during that time.

See you there!

I'm in. Take it easy on me, guys.

I'm in here, too. FWIW, the time works out for me, I prefer roto, and whatever you think of as far as new AL players works for me. I'm just hoping to have a good showing in my first-ever AL-only league

I'm in on the mixed and AL. I have to keep a Yahoo slot open for my home league otherwise I'd join the NL too.

I like Roto best. The draft time for the Mixed looks fine to me but I don't think I'll be able to do the draft time as set up for the AL. It would have to be mid day Saturday or during the work week for me.

Couple of other items: both leagues seem like they are set up for daily line up changes. I thought we were going with weekly. Roto is great and solves the headcount issue.

Last season I played in a combined AL/NL only league, where the winner was the combined total - perhaps we could do that as well.

Please make them a weekly moves leagues.

Isn't the best depth for NL 13 teams and AL 12 teams?

Any thoughts on growing to a keeper leagues?

I prefer auction.

Oops re-copied the wrong updated list.

And, I'll go with whatever to make it happen.

Prize money - modest amount?

In the AL/NL leagues I was in where there were the same owners in each, and ours is close now, you got first dibs on players changing leagues. So if you had Teixeira - everyone would let him sit for 3 days (on Yahoo waivers) - and the the same owner took him in the NL.

Is there a NL league set up? If so what's the name and pw?

Just a couple of things for Yahoo leagues:

Most of the default Yahoo settings are fine, but watch out for:

1 - Weekly transactions please - daily is just too much work. Daily also favors east coast players, who are already at work (and have read all the BB news) just when the west coasters are getting out of bed.

2 - 23 player rosters (14/9) but zero bench, and then limit the DL slots to like 4 players. The WW is gonna be thin anyway, but stashing a bunch of Bench players makes it impossible to pick up replacement players.

3 - Make sure there are designated SP, RP, and just P in the nine pitching spots. That's how Yahoo forces a minimum innings pitched rule. If we say any 9 P, guys will load up on Closers or MR, and it skews the hell out of the Pitching cats. This really helps if an owner has to autodraft.

No money for me, even a token amount. I think about fantasy baseball enough, without waking up in the middle of the night, sweating over my "fun" league lineups!

bob,
Good points about the player set up. Can you detail the positions for the hitters? I think the default Yahoo is 9 hitters. Also, I think 1-2 bench spots might be nice. Allows us to take a chance on a guy or two.

Money - not for me right now. Maybe next year but I'm already tapped out due to my home league.

NL/AL - leagues. Yahoo has a max of 3 leagues per ID. My home league is run on Yahoo so I wouldn't be able to do AL, NL and mixed. And I'd rather not sign up for yet another ID in something. I have way too many IDs floating around in my head already. Maybe we can set this up next year. Or I can drop out of the mixed. Let me know how we look for this idea.

Looks like the leagues are beginning to round out nicely. Once you decide where I'm needed, you'll have to get in touch with me. Send an email to me at:
tbone90125@gmail.com

BTW- I can play in more than one league if need be. Just let me know. And PLEASE!!! make sure I'm included in at least one league. I would be really disappointed if I were somehow shut out.

Yes, the Yahoo default for hitters is 9 positions but that means we have to come up with five other positions. Maybe have CI, MI, a fourth OF and a second Util spot? The default for pitchers is 7 pitching slots so maybe adjust the roster with little to know bench like SP x 5, RP x 4? This way you can maximize the pitchers being used and use any combo of closers/MRers to your RP slots. Thoughts?

I changed the AL roster deadline from daily to Weekly on Tuesday. Is that alright?

If I can only have three leagues per ID, I'm gonna have to drop out of the Mixed and NL league cuz I am in two keeper leagues that I've committed to for the past couple of years. This way I can do the AL league as Commish and still do the other leagues. Is that ok?

Re: Atavist's suggestion on AL/NL players moving to different leagues: That would mean the exact same people would have to function in both AL and NL leagues and it won't work if I can only do three leagues since I've already committed to three.

I think the best way to alleviate the player issue is to designate a cut off point where if a player moves away from the league, the team can keep that player despite his move from the AL to the NL (for example). I'll show you what I mean: lets say on the off chance that Grady Sizemore was traded away from Cleveland to, say, the Rockies. Sizemore in an AL league is easily one of the top five ranked players so simply dumping him would probably devastate a team since there would be no replacement in the WW with rosters so deep. I would say take how many teams in the league and multiply it times two or three and use Yahoo ranks and determine the top *insert number* players are worth keeping as a cut off point. This way, it keeps it pretty competitive for those investing so much to be productive on their team. If the player that is traded away is not on the top *number*, he must be dumped by the time the week's roster is due (Tuesday) or the commish will dump the said player for him.

If a player moves from the NL to the AL and If the player is considered significant enough (say Yahoo's top *insert number* of players in the NL), I would either use the waiver system or the standings system. In the standings system, the last place team gets first dibs on the significant player coming in and the team doesn't want it, it goes to the next to last place team and so on. At least it gives a last place team a chance to compete and do well by adding the player. What do you guys think?

A few things. We need 5 bench spots for each league -- we don't want our leagues to be unique, we want them to be more like the norm don't we? Otherwise what is the value?

In mixed, 3 SP, 3 RP and 3 P, or maybe go to 4 SP. In the mono's, 3 SP, 2 RP and 2 P. We need 23 man rosters for mixed: 2 C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, MI, CI, 5 OF, 1 Util, 9 P. For the mono's, you drop to 1 C, 3 OF, and 7 P.

The norm for weekly lineups is usually Monday. But how do you handle weekly transactions in Yahoo? They don't offer FAAB processing do they?

~ Fred

Perhaps I'm just old school and I'm happy to go with whatever settings you guys choose, but the "traditional" leagues based on the rules developed by our illustrious roto founders back in the early 80's (whether mixed, NL only or AL only) have 2 C, 1 1B, 1 2B, 1 SS, 1 3B, 1 CR, 1 MI, 5 OF, 1 UT, 9 P (any combination of RP and SP with a rule that if a team doesn't hit minimum innings requirement which is typically around 1000, that team moves to last in ERA and WHIP). There is no bench and you don't reduce the number of roster spots for the NL only or AL only leagues.

Weekly trans on Yahoo: IIRC from last season it's a race for FA's with priorities for waiver players. One can make the moves whenever, but one's move isn't processed until the trans-day (which is everyday here in San Francisco "Not - that there's anything wrong with that . . .")

The Atavist - a throwback - likes the idea of an homage roto redux indeed. Might be a great touchstone "tradition" - "Vintage Roto" league (like http://www.vintagebbf.com/) But wasn't the original league 4x4? (Which, I have not played.)

Kinda like the idea of no reserves too.

And, I like the collegial way we're going about organizing.

why don't we keep the current yahoo settings as they are on the mixed league and set up a retro roto league as y'all have described? this 4 by 4 mixed league could be set up without a bench. i can set lineup changes for both leagues for weekly, on either mondays or tuesdays. i commish my main h2h league and it has daily changes with a group of the most cut-throat free agent list miners ever to play fantasy baseball. if our league is weekly then i can relax a bit. anyway, i plan on using you guys to beta test theories and hone my tactical skills. i can create one more league with my yahoo id, perhaps we as roto redux should offer this vintage league to our posting community.

Yes, the founders league (and most leagues until about 10 years ago) were 4X4, but all the guides and almost all leagues now go with 5X5.

To quote Yahoo Sports FAQ concerning how many leagues/teams can a single Yahoo ID may have in Fantasy Baseball:

"You can join any combination of four leagues (Public or Custom; Head-to-Head, Rotisserie or Fantasy Points) with a single Yahoo! ID.

If you wish to participate in more than four leagues, you will need to register under a separate Yahoo! ID."

Here's the link if you wish to read it for yourself: http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/baseball/...aseball-03.html

Trans-day is everyday in SF....

Back in my old life (1987), I spent about 6 months in the east bay (Hayward) helping the newspaper there setup a software system. The area was very cool, but when people saw my out of state license plates, they always asked "When are you going home?" Huh? Maybe never, you jerk! I was pretty smart getting out of there fast, because I heard the software/computer business really flopped in that area.

Anyway - I forgot about the Yahoo position settings. We have always played 5x5 with 14 batters/9 pitchers, even in monoleagues. That's why there is no bench, and limited DL.

Daver got it right - "2 C, 1 1B, 1 2B, 1 SS, 1 3B, 1 CR, 1 MI, 5 OF, 1 UT, 9 P" but I don't think Yahoo enforces minimum innings pitched, so we forced 5 SP, 2 RP, and 2 P.

By default, players traded out of a monoleague keep accruing stats (I think), but there should be a way to change that. It would suck if Sizemore got traded out of an AL only league, but that's just the same as if he had a season-ending injury. I think a player should stop accruing stats - it's harsh, but just part of the game.

New players coming into the monoleague are put on a 3 day waiver, then everyone has a chance to put in a transaction request. Yahoo processes the transactions based on a waiver rank. When you use a waiver transaction, you go to the bottom of the rank again.

Weekly trans-day of Tuesday works really well, and the waiver rank that Yahoo uses is also a winner.

There is a website bugmenot.com that allows you to create a disposable email addy so that you could register for another Yahoo account to play extra leagues. I think Yahoo only cares about your email address when creating a new account.

Sorry about the number of leagues for the Yahoo id. It used to be three. I maxed out my leagues two years ago and shared a team with a buddy since he had 3 yahoo ids for the sole purpose of fantasy baseball. The guy is nuts. Used to spend 2-3 hours per day checking his fantasy teams.

i have reset the mixed yahoo standard roto for weekly changes on tuesdays.

Has the NL only league been set-up?

RagerXS is listed as the commish for the NL. Any sight of him recently?

Not yet, RagerXS hasn't gotten around to it yet I suppose.

Sorry guys, been busy. Here's our league URL: http://baseball.fantasysports.yahoo.com/le...ersSeriesNLOnly

LeagueID: 89858
Password: playball

I caved to weekly lineups on Tuesdays, but the rosters are C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, CI, MI, 3 OF, Util, 9 P, 5 Bench, 2 DL, max of 13 teams.

Our draft is set for 3/23/08 at 10:00 PM eastern. This could change based on league vote, but for now that is the date.

~ Fred

I don't know what I was thinking with 9 P -- needs to be 7. But after signing up for the AL only I decided to mirror that with 2 SP, 2 RP, and 3 P.

Can we have the AL only league use 2 DL for consistency?

Who is setting up the mixed league?

~ Fred

Proposed for a discussion -

1. That the AL and NL only leagues have the same positions and settings for continuity in managing, and to add allow equality for another level of competition for those in both leagues. The settings now:

AL: C, C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, CI, MI, OF, OF, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, SP, SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P
NL: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, CI, MI, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P,

2. That the bench positions and DL slots be limited to a smaller number than now set in each. AL has 5 DL and not any bench, and NL has 5 bench and 2 DL. I think that limiting the number of each will make the WW more vital, and preclude DL stashing. Also the draft would shorten with fewer bench players.

And, a "Thank You!" to both commissioners for their time and attention.

I agree with The Atavist. My view is that the AL only has the more "standard" set-up and I'd prefer to see the NL only match that with the 2 C's, 5 OF's, 9 P's, etc. I like the no bench and 5 DL settings that the AL only has too. All that said, I'm ok with whatever the league decides!!!

I like the AL set up as well. The postions are a little more standard to what I've been playing. Also, I like the thought process behind the no bench and big DL. There is no bench to keep the WW having some people on it. But if your stud 1B gets hurt, you don't necessarily want to drop him to pick up a scrub 1B. That is where the DL is needed. The big DL is so that if someone gets hit with an injury bug they don't have to make too much concession to dropping their big players.

I agree with The Atavist, BCBarney and Daver - make the NL league match the AL settings.

And a BIG thanks to the league commissioners!

I can be flexible, but the measuring stick for what is standard in a mono league should not be what we might be accustomed to from mixed leagues. The AL only league (with bench added) is the most standard lineup for mixed leagues. Mono leagues more often have only 1 catcher and 3 OF. I mean, really, there are barely enough starting catchers for a mono league with one -- what is the point of requiring two catchers in the starting lineup and in the same post mentioning something about eliminating the bench positions to keep more players on the waiver wire. I'm sorry, but these items are mutually exclusive, don't you think?

How about we go with the NL lineup, and reduce to 1 DL and 4 reserves.

Hey Guys, This discussion is going now where. PLEASE could we work on reaching a consensus on the roster structure? I would "very much appreciate" (read "really really want") that the two leagues mirror for ease of management and for an added combined competition.

Bench and DL:I would prefer a structure that would make the WW active and encourage trades. I fear that many DL slots will invite grab and stash tactics, I like 5 bench and one DL. One DL for you stud, and if you want to stash more use a bench slot.

Catcher: I acknowledge Rager's point, but don't feel strongly drafting a second catcher is a challenge and can make some difference in competition.

Pitchers: How about all P's and not SP's and RP's with IP and starts minimums? I have not any idea as to minimums, but I would allow various strategies and make managing more challenging.

Bench and DL: I would be willing to add a bench spot in answer to the next question. As far as DL slots, I think there needs to be a minimum of three slots in AL and NL only leagues and two for the Mixed. The pool is deeper in mixed league so there would be less of a need for you to keep your players but it would be shallower (word?) in AL and NL only leagues.

Catcher: For Mixed leagues, I think there needs to be two but in AL and NL only leagues, I think having one catcher is fine but we have to make up for the slot by having a bench slot, IMO.

Pitchers: For Yahoo Roto leagues, there is no Innings Minimum setting so that means we only have an Innings Maximum. In order to curb people from getting just closers or MR's, there needs to be some degree of SPers and RPers.

Hi All,
Got the email about league makeup. I'm not fussy about the format, and will play whatever we can agree on. I like the idea of a bench, and DL, but would suggest a bench of 3-5 players and only 1-2 DL slots. Most mixed leagues use 2 catchers and mono leagues can use either 1 or 2 if its a deep league. These mono leagues that you've set up appear to be kind of shallow, so I think 1 catcher will do. Pitching has to be limited in some way to discourage the overuse of closers. You could limit rosters, or set up inning min and max, whichever is easiest. That's my two cents. Let me know what you'all decide.
T.

Does anyone have a problem with this:

C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, CI, MI, OF, OF, OF, OF, OF, OF Util, SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P, P. B, B, B, B, DL, DL
with a min/max IP?

I can live with this, but with Yahoo you can't set a min IP -- that is the purpose of the rigid SP positions.

I am OK with the proposed lineup as long as we reduce the 6 OF to 5 OF. I'd even do 2 C if need be.

~ Fred

Oops! . . The 6th OF was a typo. I meant only 5.

So, the pitchers are okay without min innings?

Fine with me. I agree that both leagues should have the same settings. Let just pick something and go with it.

I like having only 1 catcher for the mono leagues.

As for the bench, I like the idea of limiting the bench spots to 1 - 2. Also, about 3 DL slots seems right to me.

For the mixed league I think we should match the mono league roster spots but have 2 catchers and a bigger bench with smaller DL. Maybe 4 bench with only 1 - 2 DL spots.

I'm fine with whatever settings. I just think the two mono leagues should match up. The mixed league should have the deepest rosters.

I'm fine with whatever set up we have. It looks like there's been some excellent points and solutions already.

Since as noted above the 6th OF was a typo - let's add an bench and make it 5 bench to keep the same number of players on the roster the same.

5 Bench and 2 DL is the way to go. I'm going to adjust the NL settings to match the Atavist's recommendation (corrected version).

~ Fred

Looks good to me!

Hey! . . . . We've only got 5 teams in the NL only league.

Why don't some of you AL guys come on over, and live without a DH and enjoy easier pitching?

As much as I'd love to join the NL league, I am already at my personal max of four teams. If I were the NL commish, I would personally email people who were listed to join here on the boards and enlist them. That's what I did to get 10 people in the AL league and who knows, you could get more!

I'd love to join but I'm already stretching myself thin and if I can't give at least 85% effort than I'm not going to dilute the competitiveness of the league. I already have my hardcore home league ($$$), my work league ($), and then the mixed and AL-only league here (no $). I can't see myself really following anymore than that this season and being able to give a genuine effort.

I see the mixed league only as 9 teams as well; if it had more members I'd be willing to drop from that and do both mono-leagues instead.

My plate runneth over . . . Before I joined the AL and NL, I was in 5 mixed leagues - 4 money. From the get-go, I wanted to play in both AL and NL, or neither. Frankly, since it's not likely that the NL league is going to achieve a competitive quorum of 12, I've decided to get real with my time available and so withdraw from both. I truly regret flaking, but under the circumstances I think it's the prudent. Being in 5 leagues already, I probably shouldn't have undertook these two, but enthusiasm got the better of me.